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How do you weigh in on the Vance-couch conversation?

13.06.2025 12:31

How do you weigh in on the Vance-couch conversation?

I don’t see what’s wrong with banging couches.

Vance didn’t, or that’s the story. And honestly, I believe it. He’s a bit too uptight for that sort of thing.

Masturbation isn’t bad. It provides most of the benefits of sex, many of which actively improve human health, with zero risk of disease or pregnancy. It is an objectively good thing that most of us ought to do more often. Not for pleasure, though pleasure is also good, but for our health.

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We need to stop shaming people for healthy activities they do in the privacy of their own homes.

Creativity is also good, especially as the story would cause no harm to the couch and didn’t involve any direct contact with it. There’s no ick factor here, just a young person having fun in a way that doesn’t harm or impose upon anyone else.

But what if he had? Why are we shaming him for this? Why would we shame anyone for this?

I'm looking for an answer from people who consider themselves "Gender Critical", or transphobic, or TERFs, and my question is this - Why would you refuse to use the pronouns someone wants? What does it cost you? Where's the harm?

This, if he’d done it, would be perfectly okay.

Decadent Girl by Ramon Casas. Public domain.

It’s a creative form of masturbation that may feel pretty darn good.

Why do men think I’m easy just by looking at me?